Another Wikipedia murder

One of the pleasures of reading the Wikipediocracy forum, as I do from time to time, is to see hard evidence of what I experienced myself, that it is very dangerous for ordinary people to attempt to contribute to Wikipedia.

Today’s thread discusses a long term editor hiding behind the name “MaterialScientist”.  This post comments:

You should talk to Artem R. Oganov about his long running dispute with Materialscientist. He got indefinitely blocked, then unblocked on the condition he didn’t edit subjects of his expertise. He decided to wash his hands and walk away.

“Some time ago I entered Wikipedia using my own name, which was a mistake. Now, due to the continuing smear campaign by the user Materialscientist, I want to completely withdraw from Wikipedia both my account an any mentions of my former relations to it. Now I know the identity of the user Materialscientist, and have proofs that he does not act as an impartial editor, but instead is involved in a conflict of interest with my group. Moreover, he uses every opportunity to attack my real name …”

Dr Oganov is a professor of Geosciences at Stony Brook University, and is responsible for breakthrough discoveries in Boron science (link to New York Times article).  “MaterialScientist” is … well, someone who doesn’t care to put his name to his work.

Dr Oganov was accused of “sock-puppeting”.  The real meaning of this term is someone who uses several accounts to give the false impression of multiple people.  However in Wikipedia it gets used for anyone who someone doesn’t like who has used more than one account on the system; say, perhaps, if he has edited under his own name and then found himself the target of a vicious campaign of personal attacks designed to ruin his real-world reputation. 

The disgusting “trial” is here.  The accusation was made by “MaterialScientist”, who submitted “evidence” under his alternative account “NIMSOffice”.  Likewise it is fairly obvious that “Uncle G” is a pawn of “MaterialScientist”, rather than an unbiased bystander; using one minor account to shriek accusations, and the main account to pretend to be calm and unbiased.  I have myself been the victim of just this techniqe.

No doubt MaterialScientist maneouvred cleverly, and played the game to win.  Bait your foe into hiding behind a false identity, use obvious socks and tempt him to respond in kind; and then accuse him of sock-puppeting with some pre-warned friends to implement a ban … nice.  

I have no doubt that Dr Oganov was very hurt by the treatment he received.  And … what kind of morons, finding that they have a world-expert on hand, issue him a  ban from editing on the topic of his expertise?!  You couldn’t make it up.

The end result was that one of the major scientists in Boron studies was forced out of Wikipedia.  And I suspect that this happens quite a lot.

Don’t contribute to Wikipedia.  The owners do not care what happens to any of the contributors, while the place is overrun with low-lifes, who will, coldly and deliberately, do you an injury while remaining anonymous themselves.


11 thoughts on “Another Wikipedia murder

  1. I’ve edited article a few times years ago. Without a login. I found that the edit disappeared within an hour each time. Once with a point I really wanted to make, to make the article more fair, I just kept posting it every day until it stuck. I guess I tired the trolls out at least temporarily. Of course I’m sure they’ve totally obliterated my contribution since then. As for trying to bait people to give their real names so they can use every avenue to attack them, hyper-Calvinists always do that on their blogs. People continue to fall for the old “reveal your real identity because its the Christian thing to do.” There’s a sucker born every minute.

  2. I’ve never encountered “hyper-calvinists” – who are these? But yes, the abuse of real names by those who hide their own is a nasty trend online.

  3. Its surprising you’ve never heard that term. If a non-Calvinist uses the term, it means the Calvinists who are really hyper at pushing Calvinism down everyone’s throats (because they’re literally hyper). If a Calvinist uses it, it refers to Calvinists who openly admit to believing that God is the author of evil because to openly admit to the logical conclusion of the system is a no no which other Calvinists must distance themselves from.

  4. On September 22, 2017, the ISO 4217, released amendment 164 changing the spelling of the Philippine Peso, to Philippine Piso, as it is written on the Philippine currency. I went on Wikipedia to edit the “Philippine Peso” page, to make changes reflecting this change, and within 15 minutes I was blocked as a vandal, and all of my edits were reversed. Since I am blocked as a vandal, I can’t even get anywhere to find out why. You would think Materialscientist, (the one who blocked me), would do some research or at least contact me, before blocking me. The Wikipedia web site is not what I would call user friendly.

  5. The name “materialscientist” rings a bell from wikipediocracy. It is extraordinary how bad things are, isn’t it? But your experience is shocking.

  6. my I.P. was blocked by MaterialScientist and I’ve never even edited anything on Wiki before. Claiming I have committed vandalism. This guy needs to go…

  7. I’ve been blocked by this MaterialScientist guy too. I’ve never edited anything on Wikipedia before, though I’ve thought about it. It always seems so overly complicated. My favorite Wikipedia page was utterly vandalized without being fixed, so I thought: what’s the point of editing something when some arbitrary figure can just destroy it?

    How is it even possible that you could get blocked without ever having edited anything?

    I have no clue how to contact the guy and ask him why. It’s telling that the link for this blog seems to be attached to his profile page. Bragging about blocking people when he shouldn’t have? Are you kidding me?

  8. I tried editing an incorrect Wikipedia article today (nothing major, but it referenced WWII and the timeline was off by several years), and the minute I hit the edit button, it said I had been banned from editing for 10 months by “Materialscientist” because my internet activity was “school activity”. This is the first time in my life that I’ve ever tried editing a wikipedia article, and this is on my private cell phone from my home.

    Wouldn’t you have to be tracking an IP address for at the very least a number of weeks to even be able to safely make that assumption? What even constitutes “school activity”? And there is no way to find out who this person is or even contact them. Makes me wonder how many articles are outdated, missing information or outright wrong when people qualified in their fields are censored from contributing.

  9. I used to read the wikipediocracy blog. I remember the name “materialscientist” being notorious.

    The truth is that nobody sensible can edit wikipedia and it is a mistake to try.

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