One of the earliest works of St Augustine is a work that he wrote in 386 AD at a country villa while preparing for baptism. It is one of a number of works that he wrote at that time. Augustine had just abandoned his job as a teacher of philosophy, but the milieu is still that of late philosophy.
The work is De ordine, “On Order”, which Robert P. Russell, the first translator, revised to a more meaningful “Divine Providence and the Problem of Evil”. The work is concerned with explaining how God controls everything that happens in the world, even the bad things, although he is not responsible for them. Given in dialogue form, it records a discussion between Augustine and his friends and a couple of students.
In De ordine book 2, chapter 4, we read the following statement:
TRYGETIUS: … Indeed, the entire life of the unwise, although it is by no means consistent and by no means well regulated by themselves, is, nevertheless, necessarily included in the order of things by Divine Providence. And, certain places having been arranged, so to speak, by that ineffable and eternal law, it is by no means permitted to be where it ought not to be. Thus it happens that whoever narrow-mindedly considers this life [the life of the “unwise”] by itself alone is repelled by its enormous foulness, and turns away in sheer disgust. But, if he raises the eyes of the mind and broadens his field of vision and surveys all things as a whole, then he will find nothing unarranged, unclassed, or unassigned to its own place.’
AUGUSTINE: … Now, you were looking for just one or two illustrations for that opinion of yours. To me there already occur countless illustrations which bring me to complete agreement.
What more hideous than a hangman? What more cruel and ferocious than his character? Yet he holds a necessary post in the very midst of laws, and he is incorporated into the order of a well-regulated state; himself criminal in character, he is nevertheless, by others’ arrangement, the penalty of evildoers.
What can be mentioned more sordid, more bereft of decency, or more full of turpitude than prostitutes, procurers, and the other pests of that sort? Remove prostitutes from human affairs, and you will unsettle everything because of lusts; place them in the position of matrons, and you will dishonor these latter by disgrace and ignominy. This class of people is, therefore, by its own mode of life most unchaste in its morals; by the law of order, it is most vile in social condition.
And is it not true that in the bodies of animals there are certain members which you could not bear to look at, if you should view them by themselves alone? But the order of nature has designed that because they are needful they shall not be lacking, and because they are uncomely they shall not be prominent. And these ugly members, by keeping their proper places, have provided a better position for the more comely ones.
(Paragraphing mine). The argument is fundamentally one in which Augustine is trying to explain how God controls evil and makes a use of it, assigning it a role in our broken society, but does not endorse it or take responsibility for it. The examples are incidental. Augustine was not describing how a society should be, but how his society was. The social order of the Western Roman Empire was pagan to the end.
Unfortunately this idea, that prostitution and pimping were a necessary evil, like the hangman, was picked up by Thomas Aquinas in his Summa theologica, 2a 2ae, q. 10. a; 11. c, who used it to illustrate the idea that human legislators may at times permit certain evils for the purpose of avoiding greater ones. This led to the awful institution of legalised brothels in Catholic countries, the abuse of women for profit, even in Rome itself.
As the Fathers of the Church editor is keen to point out, Augustine spoke rather more clearly in Contra Faustum Manichaeum, book 22, chapter 61 (Latin here, English here):
Consulta quippe aeterna lex illa, quae ordinem naturalem conservari iubet, pertubari vetat, non nisi propagationis causa statuit hominis concubitum fieri, et hoc non nisi socialiter ordinato connubio, quod non pervertat vinculum pacis: et ideo prostitutio feminarum, non ad substituendam prolem, sed ad satiandam libidinem propositarum, divina atque aeterna lege damnatur.
Obviously by that eternal law, which commands that the natural order be conserved, and forbids it to be disturbed, human sex is not established to happen unless for the cause of propagation, and this not unless a marriage has taken place, so that the bond of peace is not overthrown/corrupted: and likewise the prostitution of women who offer themselves, not for the begetting of offspring but for the sating of lust, is condemned by the divine and eternal law.
The “bond of peace” is of course the institution of marriage. Certainly this indicates that Augustine reaffirms that prostitution is wrong.
It is remarkable what men will do to justify an evil, if they stand to profit by it. Indeed only this week I came across someone campaigning to “legalise prostitution”. Prostitution is legal; it is pimping that is not, so the campaign is to permit the legal trade in women to resume. I pointed out that prostitution was awful; and he had the cheek to ask me sneerily, “Why is prostitution awful”. Those willing to commit some obvious evil are seldom ashamed to lie about it as well.
Curiously the second half of the NPNF translation is wrong at this point, reading:
Undoubtedly, by the eternal law, which requires the preservation of natural order, and forbids the transgression of it, conjugal intercourse should take place only for the procreation of children, and after the celebration of marriage, so as to maintain the bond of peace. Therefore, the prostitution of women, merely for the gratification of sinful passion, is condemned by the divine and eternal law.
What happened to “non ad substituendam prolem”, one wonders.
- “Writings of Saint Augustine volume 1”, in: Fathers of the Church 5 (1948), p.229-334↩
- Key passage p.287-8.↩
- See for another example, Michael M. Hammer, “Prostitution in Urban Brothels in Late Medieval Austria”, online here. It seems to be a paper from this 2017 seminar “Forgotten Women from a Forgotten Region: Prostitutes and Female Slaves in Central and Eastern Europe in the Long Middle Ages” here.↩
10 thoughts on “Augustine’s “De ordine” and his comment on prostitution”
I’m not following the comparison and contrast between St. Augustine and St. Thomas. In the 1920 Dominican translation (transcribed at New Advent), the quotation from Augustine is translated “If you do away with harlots, the world will be convulsed with lust”, and “in human government also, those who are in authority, rightly tolerate certain evils, lest certain goods be lost, or certain greater evils be incurred” seems a sort of glossing extrapolation from it. The fuller sentence as translated here – “Remove prostitutes from human affairs, and you will unsettle everything because of lusts; place them in the position of matrons, and you will dishonor these latter by disgrace and ignominy” – seems prima facie just as odd and unpersuasive, though I am not sure what is intended with “place them in the position of matrons”. What persuades (if I understand you correctly, here), that this is somehow simply “describing […] how his society was” (unchangeably in practice?)?
I can’t quite follow your thought, because you have mingled together here material by Aquinas with the Augustine that he is quoting; but the passage of Aquinas is here.
Aquinas is prescribing, Augustine is describing. Or so it seems to me.
People were running legalized brothels in Europe before ever Aquinas was born, and a lot of them were claiming Augustine as a reason. (I can’t remember the date of the brothels at Southwark owned or landlord-ed by the bishops, but it was a thing.)
More to the point, Aquinas was making a quick point talking about something else, not about talking in-depth about the rights and wrongs of prostitution. The basic point was “governments regulate things,” as far as I can see.
Back when he was insisting on becoming a Dominican friar instead of the abbot of Monte Cassino, and his parents were keeping him imprisoned in his bedroom until he changed his mind (which he didn’t), his dad allegedly hired a prostitute and stuck her into his room for reasons. And Aquinas lost the family temper and threw her right back out again, slammed the door instead of trying to escape, and burned a cross on the inside of the door with a stick from his fire. And then had a vision promising him that he’d never have a lust problem, which apparently he didn’t.
So although I don’t recall that he did a lot of fire and brimstone argumentation about the subject, Aquinas was not a prostitution fan.
Oh — btw, it turns out that De Corpore Domini wasn’t the same book after all! It’s a book of treatises on the Eucharist tacked onto the end (because it was the most complicated part, and did turn out to be a book in itself and was often printed separately) of a book about the Sacraments, from very late in St. Albert the Great’s career. It has a similar structure to the book of sermons on the Eucharist that I was working on, and some of the quotes and points are similar; but otherwise it is totally different. So it wasn’t an inexplicably bad translation that left out a bunch of stuff, or anything like that. And yes, previous editions of both books both had extremely similar or identical names, so it would be easy to think that one book was the other.
The freaky thing is that the translator had access to a lot of stuff, but obviously didn’t have access to this sermon book I was doing. So a lot of relevant comparisons between the earlier pastoral treatment, and the later theological treatment, do not come up. She also doesn’t have any notes back and forth on which stuff is common to both. But she did a buttload of work on where various non-exact quotes of ideas in De Corpore Domini came from, and that is highly relevant. (For example, I never realized that the structure of both books came from the names used in the Mass at various points as references to the Eucharist. Very nifty.)
This is what happens when various Opera Omnia editions have more than 50 volumes.
So now I have to get to work on putting out my translation, because a lot of the hard work got done for me. But I’m going to have to do a more thorough search of the man’s other works, because obviously it’s easy to miss important points.
Thank you very much for this. I know nothing about Aquinas so I stayed well away from that side of things.
It’s a fun story, and as Chesterton pointed out, it seems to be one of the few times when he actually noticed and minded something going on, outside his own head. Getting imprisoned in his bedroom doesn’t seem to have annoyed him at all.
Honestly, his whole life cracks me up. He was related to practically every crowned head in Europe, but he didn’t care. He was in business to be a friar and a theologian, to learn and to teach, and to love God. And that was it.
On the downside, dying because you were lost in thought, riding a horse for the first time in your adult life, and not used to having to duck tree limbs, is something of a waste.
Lol! Gosh that is fascinating!
A few of us spend life between our own two ears.
And what saith the scriptures?
” Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.” Leviticus 19:29
” There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.” Deuteronomy 23:17
” For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit. She also lieth in wait as for a prey, and increaseth the transgressors among men.” Proverbs 23:27-28
” Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.” 1 Corinthians 6:15
Augustine and Aquinas agrees with you on this- that Prostitution is a grave sin, contrary to the ‘virtue of Chastity’. In fact, both of these men have their conversion stories related to fleeing from the Sin of Prostitution.
For Augustine, he was converted to Christianity from a life of Fornication and hiring Prostitutes, and left them when he found Christ. (He infact turned the opposite way and spoke very badly regarding sex). For Aquinas also, when he wanted to serve God and become a theologian, his dad, a rich merchant who wanted his boy to continue his business, locked him in his room with a prostitute, so that he would be attracted to her and lose his desire to ‘serve God’. But, as the legend goes, an Angel appeared and drove the Prostitute out and gave Aquinas a ‘belt of Chastity’.
What they argued is that Prostitutes should be tolerated by *civil law*(both these theologians separate Civil Law from Divine Law), even though it is a great sin- that is something even you, a modern Christian might agree with. The job of the Prostitute is evil, but it must be legal- in a way alluding to the Separation of State and Church.
Legal does not imply right behavior!
It also does not imply that God thereby allows or cause it as Calvinism teaches!